Update 11/24: According to a number of our readers, plus a number of newly updated reviews on FoxFi’s Google Play listing that confirm, FoxFi is back to working on Verizon. Enjoy that unlimited data, enjoy it, friends. I hope this isn’t the end, but it may be.

DSL installation options. Full Tech Install. At the time you place your order you can request to have a CenturyLink Technician install the high-speed internet service. There is a charge for this service. Collapse all Expand all. Do I need to be home for CenturyLink to install my high-speed internet service and connect my.

Has stopped working with Verizon unlimited data plans. According to a number of our readers and dozens more who have commented on Google Play, FoxFi, the popular tethering app that doesn’t require root and was used by many unlimited Verizon data plan subscribers, stopped working yesterday and is still not working today.

Some of our readers have tried FoxFi with multiple phones, asked friends to test, and done everything else they can think of to see what the issue is, yet have come up empty. Many are seeing a subscription request from Verizon, which is typically the screen seen when you try and tether without having signed up for a tethering plan from Verizon. Of course, the timing couldn’t be worse, since Verizon is also on their next billing cycle after November 15. There is always a chance that FoxFi will issue an update that bypasses Verizon’s subscription check.

Until then, you may be out of luck. Cheers Elias, Jimmy, Jose, and everyone else! My FoxFi went tits up from my S3 last Friday.

Grandfathered UDP. Don’t anyone jump the gun and start paying Verizon more money or fuking up UDPs.

I fixed mine (I think). Yay for me!!!!! I’m computer stupid and trepidatious about altering anything on my phone or computer (history eraser buttons and all). Spent last 4 days searching for answers here and on similar threads.

Tried USB tethering but neither phone nor laptop even recognized connection. (Have OEM charger cable but shot over to BestBuy and confirmed through use that it is also data cable.) Don’t know if that would have been the case prior to recent shutdown. Mobile hotspot had always been enough. Got up this morning and went back at it.

Started by trying Activate Hotspot again, same crap. Finally started with basic troubleshooting from PdaNet..

Suggestion 1: “If FoxFi ever works for you before and now giving you problem, the first thing you should try is to reboot your phone and rename the hotspot before activating FoxFi.” Didn’t try earlier because I kept approaching FoxFi from the wrong direction and getting “FoxFi16” under SSID. Didn’t know “SSID” was equal to “Name”. Remember, computer stupid. Also, didn’t reboot phone (Does that mean simply shutting it off?). So, went at it like this: Didn’t restart or turn phone off/on. Tapped FoxFi Key icon on home screen. Tapped “Network Name”.

Changed FoxFi16 to fOXfI16 (in case I needed to change it back). Left Password unchanged. Tapped “Activate WiFi Hotspot”.

(In this instance, didn’t require going through “Almost there Go To Settings”) Laptop picked up fOXfI in “Open Network and Support Center” as an available connection. Disconnected from home connection (my roomie’s) and connected fOXfI. Back in fukin’ business. Turned off Hotspot. Turned off phone and computer. Restarted both.

Everything back to working like always: Asks if I trust this application. Sends me through all the usual steps. “Checking Subscription Status” swirls for a few seconds, as was usual (instead of the 45 or so after recent problems), disappears and “Hotspot On”. I’m so fukin’ happy I could beat off.

Think I will. A little XHamster, if you please •. Pdanet has a wifi-share.Install Pdanet on your laptop>>Open Foxfi from your phone>>Check “Activiate USB Mode” to activate USB debugging. If prompt to activate USB goto “settings”>>”about phone” tap on “Build number” as many times(typically 3times to active USB debugging) to activate “Developer Options”>>go back and tap on “Developer Options>>check”USB debugging”>>got to yoour laptop lunch Pdanet>>right mouse click on pdanet icon>>connect>>after connected, right click pdanet and select “Wifi-share” That’s it! 20 bucks saved per month!

You can also Activate Foxfi via bluetooth from your phone by checking ” Activate bluetooth Mode” works great for me. I’m able to connect my printer, TV, my gf’s phone, laptop etc through the wifishare.

God Bless America! Here’s my solution (for now): Instead of buying an expensive MiFi device, I bought a Galaxy S3 Mini for about $35 to use as a wifi hotspot (after installing CM on it). It’s a drag to swap out the SIM from my regular phone, but I’ve got my fingers crossed this will be fixed eventually. If I could root my phone to install XPosed/XTether or install a custom ROM on it, I would.

But I have a Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge+, which has no root method available. I like the phone too much to swap it for a Nexus 6/6P.

That’s the plan. I haven’t done it yet, just bought the mini phone. My understanding is that hotspot is only a problem for VZW phones using non-rooted, stock ROMs.

If your phone is rooted, you can install XPosed framework, then the XPosed extension called XTether to enable hotspot without Verizon’s subscription check. Or of course you can go the harder route and install a custom ROM that doesn’t have any of Verizon’s claws in it. So I looked for the cheapest VZW phone I could find that can be rooted and has the hardware to support LTE and wifi hotspotting, so I can root it to enable hotspot (whether through XTether or with a custom ROM). That’s a good point.

I was tempted by the MiFi 6620L, since it has a 4000 mah battery (and advertises 20 hour battery life for hotspotting), but I didn’t like the price tag. I’ll be interested to hear what you decide on. One thing I’m interested in looking into is tethering my phone to my android tablet via USB (with an OTG cable that’s split to allow the phone to charge while tethering), then using the tablet as a wifi hotspot. Someone on stackoverflow claimed it was possible to USB tether internet from phone-to-laptop using some funky commandline stuff. At least that would avoid SIM swapping. I tried my UDP VZW SIM with a Nexus 6P for about a week. Everything worked fine (calling, tethering, even Good For Enterprise was not blocked).

Basic visual voice mail was the only app that did not work. I returned the 6P because it was too large, slippery, had no wireless charging or waterproof features (needless to say, sealed battery and non-expandable storage, as always). I wish Samsung makes a Galaxy S5 like phone (waterproof, just the right size, wireless charging, replaceable battery, expandable memory, fingerprint reader, amoled high-res screen, great camera, etc) that works on VZW, without any VZW bloatware/software restrictions. Like this is why I finally left Verizon last month after being with them for many, many years (with five lines). They are the undisputed champions of extorting money from their customers.

ANY time they make a change to their plans/policies, you can bet it will cost you more money. Charging extra for a hotspot – which is BUILT INTO the operating system of the phone – is utterly ridiculous. You’re already paying for the data what difference does it make to them if you consume it on your phone or on another device that is tethered to your phone???

Answer: NONE. To them, it’s simply data going to your phone (again, that you’re ALREADY paying for). They couldn’t care less if it’s “right” to charge extra for that hotspot or not they simply see it as yet another potential revenue stream that they can exploit. Until more people start pushing back (by leaving and telling them WHY) they will continue doing this sort of thing. I’m done with them they’ll never see another dime from me. Just thought I’d add.

On my grandfathered unlimited plan, my G3 stopped working for me sometime between 5pm and 8:30pm Sunday (11/22). Turned it on at the gym and it worked, tried turning it on again at home at 8:30, no dice. USB tethering worked fine and at a decent 10-12Mbps, however, when I tried to share the connection using ICS to my router the router speeds were extremely slow. Exactly what I started doing as soon as it went down.

Noting that download speed is nearly the same (15-25Mbps) but upload speeds have dropped significantly from 12-15 down to 2-5. Also getting a bit of packet-loss and video buffering, but overall still very usable and serving up all the devices connected before, including the Xbox One. I did manually configure IP addresses using the Virtual Router adapter IP as the Gateway (192.168.137.1) and Google DNS (both IPv4 and IPv6 on configurable devices). I spent all day Saturday the 14th (day before the upgrade) talking with Verizon on the phone about avoiding the $20/month per unlimited line (I have 3 so that totals out to $60 more/month), the rep assured me I wouldn’t get hit with the increase, and was going to call me back on Monday to confirm. Sure enough, Monday rolls around and he gives me a song and dance about how he was wrong, and he is “sorry for the inconvenience”, I told him sorry isn’t going to pay the extra $1,440 over two years!! He then assures me AGAIN that he will take the fees off.

When I call back again a few days later, a supervisor informs me that I will still have to pay the fees. I have the ENTIRE series of conversations with each rep recorded. I don’t know what to do at this point.

You realize that you’re not under a contract – and because of that they can arbitrarily decide to raise your rates to whatever they want. You have a choice now. You can either decide to take their offer and keep the service you have – or you can decide you no longer find value in their offer. FYI, I’m pretty sure Verizon will keep raising rates like this to see where the point of elasticity is for their unlimited hold outs.

I’m thinking probably another $20 raise next year and they’ll get all but the biggest data hogging a-holes off of the unlimited plan. I have Verizon unlimited data still along with the $20 discount on every unlimited line. I guess the new $20 increase will put me to the old regular price. I guess I am also still an oldtimer that requires my phone to be able to be rooted, bootloader unlocked and able to be rommed.

My Nexus 6 ROM has tethering fully enabled as it should be for everyone. How we use our data should be up to us. I own a business and tether my phone to my wireless credit card machine to process card payments which is very handy. Nexus phones with a stock ROM with all the extra features included and no ads are still the best. Didn’t know foxfi was even still used. But its our data and we should be able to use it. I know I’ll get thrown under the bus for this but I left VZ because it’s expensive I can’t help but think all the abusers of unlimited are the reason it is both went up in price and cutting out the people using tethering.

You can’t say verizon is really at fault for cutting tethering when you won’t pay for it yourself, or want to add tethering to a no longer existing plan. People that used unlimited to have Internet at home and brag about are the people who cause this stuff to happen.

Over 100 gigs in a month? We had to pay for them. OK burn me at the stake I said my piece go back to blaming verizon for charging for what others are using.

As stated below your talking a small portion, but i cant argue i have unlimited barley tether but do use over 20 gigs a month just on phone, watching football and netflix. But look at all the plans tmobile now being the biggest welfare system of phones now. 1 unlimited 95 bucks 4 unlimited 180 whos paying for those other 2 on unlimited with 4 users the single guy just like in the country as a whole the single person/line pays the far more taxes, phone charges etc. To pay for others.

Verizon upped the price for 1 reason alone that is because they can, they dont want unlimited users to leave over the increase they just want more money. They still dont limit you to 23 gigs before some worded version of throttling as tmobile/sprint do. And throttling stops unlimited!

2g is worthless for anything but maybe checking email. Been there on tmobile -2g is useless fro net use. False on every account.

First, tethering was not even possible when I signed up for my unlimited data and web plan since it wasn’t even a smartphone, so no I didn’t “agree to not tether unless you payed for it”. They offered a plan based at a time when phones had limited capability to utilize the data in order to attract customer. When that changed, they stopped offering that plan because there was profit to sell data packages for more. However, it was the carriers decision to grandfather the unlimited plans, and no where where did it say “as long as you promise not to tetherscout’s honor”. Second, “ones who use 100’s of gb tethering that are hurting all of us with unlimited data”I don’t use 100’s but I’ve seen screen grabs of those that have, but I have never been affected by it, and I guarantee you have not either. The only ones that care are the carriers because they know they can sell data plans a premium ($5 – $10/GB) and want to everyone into a tiered data plan for 2 reasons.

1) Most people use less data than they subscribe to so that is bonus profit to the carrier. It’s like paying for 50 gallons of gas for your car per month, but you only use 40, and you’re not likely to drive around a lot more the days of month just to use it up. 2) If you happen to exceed your allotted data, they get to sell you more in increments, not a per use, and since most people run out towards the end of the month, you’ll likely pay for unused data. Back to the car example, it’s like using 51 gallons on the second to last day of the month, being charged for 10 more gallons, but your final usage is only 52 gallons.

Carriers have done this since the beginning of cell phones, first they sold minutes, then features (like call-waiting, call-forwarding, and voicemail), then text messages, then dataIf a carrier didn’t offer features or texting unless ‘I paid for it’, do you really think they would block apps that allowed me to do the same? No, because there is no money in selling those features anymore. Eventually carriers will get back into a price war over data and it will stop with offering unlimited data when there is something new the can price gouge over. Show me where in your data plan contract it says you must subscribe to a tethering plan in order to tether your device.

That language certainly doesn’t/didn’t exist in my contract, because as stated above, tethering wasn’t possible with the flip-phone in which I signed my original unlimited data contract on, and certainly tethering subscriptions didn’t exist. It was “INVENTED” in order to make more money off something user already had available as function of their device. By your “logic” if your carrier wanted to start charge an extra $20 – $30/mo in order for you to turn on your WiFi or Bluetooth, you are more than happy to hand that over.

Or, with all the NFC payments available, you can’t wait until you get charged a service fee to use your phone to pay and I bet you’ll be back here arguing “Where does it say in your phone contract that NFC payments comes with your data plan on VZW”. You mistake me.

I am not stupid enough to do business with a carrier that thinks it’s ok to charge me extra for something I should have access to. You seem to be. And your analogies absolutely suck because none of them require my provider to build and maintain any infrastructure for them to work, they are options added by the phone manufacturer and supported by a 3rd party. Bombay Talking Serial Wiki. When you tether, something other than your approved, contracted device is using data that your provider has built the infrastructure to support, and has offered you for use on a specific device.

So to simplify: Mobile Data requires a carrier (in this case, VZW) to support it for it to work. Wi-Fi, NFC, and Bluetooth do not require VZW to support them at all, not even a teeny tiny little bit. They exist outside VZW’s sphere of influence. However, you bring up a good point; If there’s a carrier that would charge for the use of any of those, it would be VZW. This is a ridiculous argument.

My phone has a limit on the bandwidth it can take from the network (I like to think that I am limited by my device’s capability and not an action of Verizon, so call me a dreamer). Generally, with a 4G connection, my phone can get between 10 Mbps and 12 Mbps (4 to 6 Mbps on 3G). If I use hotspot to share that connection to a device, the device is still limited by my phone’s capacity. If I use the phone’s hotspot to share the connection with 5 devices, that 10 Mbps is now spit between them all and none of them function properly. Sharing my data with other devices in no way causes extra strain on the network because I have no ability to pull any more data than I can get through my phone at any given time. That’s a discussion for a different forum, I would think. When it comes to monthly charges, I am not in a contract and they can charge whatever they want (within reason as determined by the FCC).

It’s no different than a landlord raising rent when you’re monthly. That has to be an accepted fact and shouldn’t need to be argued. For this forum, the issue is Verizon blocking a native function of a device in order to charge you more for it. Tethering still works.

Bluetooth still works. They are blocking the Hotspot function because people want that. This is a last ditch effort to milk more money out of people.

They tried to limit data speeds and the FCC shut them down on that because of double charging. Essentially, they can either charge for by amount or by speed (per GB or Mbps), but they can’t double dip. Right now, they make more money limiting amount than they would limiting speed but that day may be on the horizon. Well I realized the reason it was probably working so well for me is bc the mXPE has a native hotspot function, and this just added a nice on/off switch to my home screen. I’d encourage you to search through and find an alternative to FoxFi that does require root, if you don’t want to root or wait for a FoxFi fix.

There aren’t many for WiFi tethering w/o root, there are a few USB, like pdanet which are working as far as I know. I’m sorry man, I don’t agree with this powerplay from vzw but this is why we use android, for the developer community–shame on Verizon for trying to stifle that. Galaxy s4, grandfathered in with unlimited data on verizon. They block mobile hotspot without subscription, in fact they don’t offer it for unlimited data. They want you off if it.

The only way is to sign a new contract-hell no. We live in rural area and really are stuck with Verizon for best signal, but not service.

All our phones are month to month and only one we were smart enough to switch before they started charging extra. We had a mi-fi, way expensive on overages. Verizon are ust plain greedy bastards, and now, they have added 20.00 more to our bill and stopped the ability to use mobile hot spot. The core problem with paying for tethering is tethering is not a service.

Tethering is a function of the hardware and nothing else. It’s a cash grab, always has and always been. I don’t use it for my home internet so I don’t see a problem with doing it on occasion when I really need it and don’t have access to WiFi.

But I sure as hell am not paying monthly for it. That would be like the water company saying “you get a pipe into your house to use the water as you see fit oh but wait, if you hook that pipe up to a shower head, you have to pay us another $20 a month” would you just pay that or ignore them and use the water you paid for as you see fit? The water came into your house, past your meter, you paid for it why should they have the right to tell you where you can and can’t route the pipe to after the meter? So I connect my phone via HDMI/ HMI adapter to my TV to cast my screen and watch movies and play games (Before chromecast) and that is stealing? Because this is exactly what people are doing connecting devices to other mediums to transfer the same content you pay for.

Transferring my data stream to a tablet or a PC one at a time/ individual use is technically allowed. It would technically be stealing if you used several devices at a time using simultaneous data streams to multiple devices at a time or offered your tethering to a group of people at once. Ill copy this from David Verba below: My plan says unlimited data, not unlimited data so long as it’s through my smart phone. Would it make you feel better if I used say 5gb of data, then put my sim in a different phone and use 5gb more and so on and so forth?

No slick, unlimited data is just that – unlimited data. I pay Time Warner far less for my unlimited data cable internet, should I only use my computer? Is it cool I have a wireless router to connect other devices to this unlimited data plan I have with Time Warner? You know, kinda how people use their phones as a router with their ***unlimited data*** plan Verizon of which they’re paying a much higher price.

Unlimited is unlimited. Using unlimited however you wish isn’t illicit behavior, it’s using the plan exactly as intended – unlimitedly.

Native wifi tethering works on bith Nexus 6 and Nexua 6P with VZW UDP. I tested with both phones. I used my existing SIM. And I don’t have a tethering plan. Inam forced to use FoxFi on my S5 because VZW modifies the tethering app on the phonea they supply to call home and check for subscription. All FoxFi does is create a VPN to its own server and fool VZW modified tethering app into thinking you have a subscription.

Very neat trick. I think FoxFi service had some issue for last few days, and has been fixed now.

If you have tethering in your contract with Verizon, and they aren’t providing it, then that’s called breach of contract. Problem is, so many people are “stealing” tethering from them instead of launching a class-action lawsuit that I have to believe it isn’t stated in their contracts, they just feel like it should be. I’m not arguing whether or not people should get tethering (I believe it should be included, that’s why I don’t do business with Verizon), I’m arguing that you get what you get when you choose to do business with a company that routinely treats their customers like they’re too stupid to know any better.

As a Verizon customer you have choices: Either sue Verizon for not providing services promised, change carriers to one that gives you what you want, or steal services from them. I’m assuming you choose theft. Think of it like this. If you have your car towed, but you know you weren’t parked illegally and have proof of that, are you going to steal your car back, or go through the legal channels to get it back? In one scenario, whether you’re in the right or not, you get a court date and possibly a record, the other gets you your car back with a little hassle. Or, you buy a package deal from your local box store, and they forget to include a piece of the package. Do you break into the store and steal the item you were promised thinking it’s ok because “You were promised it”, or do you go through the proper channels to get what you were promised?

So if what you’re saying is true, that Verizon promised you tethering and then took it away (I don’t believe this), you have recourse to get it back. If what you’re saying is just your imagination and overripe sense of entitlement speaking (which I believe it is), Verizon can absolutely come after you for it – you should consider yourself lucky that they feel it’s easier to just cut off your ability to steal from them instead of pressing charges. It is the responsibility of the provider to maintain the network in order to provide for the needs of its consumers (all consumers). Any capacity restrictions on Verizon’s network is Verizon’s fault and most likely intentional as a way to justify charging more (identify a demand, limit the supply, inflate prices).

Either way, there have been no reports of failing networks to justify the change according to your logic. Like everyone has said, this is nothing more than a simple money grab by Verizon •. Unlimited ˌənˈlimidəd/ adjective not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.

“the range of possible adaptations was unlimited” synonyms:inexhaustible, limitless, illimitable, boundless, immeasurable, incalculable, untold, infinite, endless, bottomless, never-ending So yes, when you’re paying a premium for something unlimited, then it shouldn’t have any, well, limits. I don’t even use 5gb a month but I keep my unlimited out of spite. Use 1gb use a 1tb it’s entirely up to you if you’re paying for UNLIMITED. My plan says unlimited data, not unlimited data so long as it’s through my smart phone. Would it make you feel better if I used say 5gb of data, then put my sim in a different phone and use 5gb more and so on and so forth? No slick, unlimited data is just that – unlimited data.

I pay Time Warner far less for my unlimited data cable internet, should I only use my computer? Is it cool I have a wireless router to connect other devices to this unlimited data plan I have with Time Warner? You know, kinda how people use their phones as a router with their ***unlimited data*** plan Verizon of which they’re paying a much higher price. Unlimited is unlimited. Using unlimited however you wish isn’t illicit behavior, it’s using the plan exactly as intended – unlimitedly.

Wrong again – if it’s supposed to be used only on your smartphone why is tethering even an option? No, it’s not just for your smartphone – it’s data pure and simple and in this case unlimited. Would you make the same argument about a tiered plan? Now you’ll probably be inclined to make the argument people are circumventing Verizon’s money grab for an additional $30 to use that data on other devices by using FoxFi – but apparently those level headed folks over at the FCC seem to agree using FoxFi is perfectly fine.

I do pay for home internet – $64.99/mo for Timewarner Extreme and $228/mo to Verizon. 100’s of GB on Timewarner 10’s of GB on Verizon – weird the monetary amounts don’t add up. While I’d love to agree with you, it doesn’t exactly work that way.

It’s more similar to a cable bill or renting an apartment or house works. You sign a contract which locks in your rate while under that contract period only, after that you nor the carrier is under any obligation to continue service or at the same rates. Of course it wouldn’t be in their best interest to cancel or raise your rates because it would just encourage your to take service to another carrier. In the case of UDP, they know they have a hook, and not likely to leave over it.

Okay, I ordered Verizon DSL tonight and what a fucking adventure that was. I've really need to ditch the pisspoor cable modem we have here for months (Don't ever let anyone talk you into getting Suscom cable modem service). Anyway, having been an engineer at Alcatel, it's like going home again in a way. So I figure Verizon uses PPPoE here in South Central PA (York/Red Lion area). I know I don't want to install their crappy software and all I need is a username/password combo to plug into the Linksys box to authenticate. Sooooooooo, I get on the phone with Verizon and tell them I'm running Linux (I am but also WinXP and soon OSX on a used G4). I ask them how I'm going to authenticate my account if I can't install their software.

First guy I talk to says he doesn't know, but will find someone. I'm on hold for about 5 minutes and get cut off. The woman on the other end hits me with: 'Linux? I've never heard of it.' (I shit you not) After I explain to her that just because Verizon's precious self-install CD will work on a Mac or a Windows PC, doesn't mean I can or want to use it she dumps me in the tech support call queue without even telling me.

After another 10 minutes on hold I find out that she put me in the East connection support queue when I need the West. A half hour on hold later, I ask the guy how I'm supposed to authenticate my account the first time. He says, 'After you hook your modem up and all the lights are lit, just connect to the internet and go to activate.verizon.com.' When I asked how I'm supposed to connnect without a username or password, he said that I wouldn't need one. I asked if the connection is bridged rather than PPPoE and he said 'yeah, something like that.' My question is this, does Verizon (for those in the same general area) use PPPoE, and how can I avoid installing their software?

A Volte Ritornano Pdf To Word. If it's bridged (which I doubt, but could be wrong), is it tied to the MAC of the first NIC it sees? Basically, I want the connection up and running with as little interaction from Verizon as possible. Quote: Originally posted by RGrizzzz: If you have a Linksys router, why did you tell them you have Linux?

Even though I always want to tell them that I run Linux, it only confuses the issue, and many times, they will just say 'We don't support that. Quote: Will I get a username/password as part of my install kit? The reason I ask is that some providers SBC/Yahoo won't give you that information up front they make you jump through hoops and install the software in order to connect. When i had SBC, I received the self-isntall kit and followed all the instructions and I couldnt get online. After about an hour with a tech on the phone, she had me uninstall the software, reboot and try to get to the Internet.

After they sent all the Enternet PPPoE software with explicit instructions on how to set it up, it turned out they used dhcp. Talk about stupid.

I recently got Verizon DSL here in Washington state, and to my surprise, I didn't need to use PPPoE or provide any username or password. I simply hooked up linksys router, and it grabbed an IP via DHCP automatically.

Your situation may or may not be the same. When I lived in Pittsburgh 2 years ago and got DSL, I had to use PPPoE. In my case, I just installed their stuff on my machine to create my account, copied over to my router, and then once I was up and running, I removed all of their software from my machine. If you don't have access to a Windows box, I'm pretty sure you can complete the registration from any computer that has internet access. Whether or not it is required is debatable. I was using my internet connection for over a month before I 'registered' my account at activate.verizon.com.

Quote: If you have a Linksys router, why did you tell them you have Linux? Because if I tell them I have a router, the response will be you still need to install the software to connect. Whereas if they believe I cannot install the software to begin with (only running Linux), then I can bypass that step and connect without it. From the responses, it looks as if I'll have to wait until I receive my install kit to see what the procedure will be. At least I'll be able to utilize my hacked Speed Touch modem again. I'm currently a Verizon DSL user in the York area also, having just migrated over from the GTE camp and my old style Fujitsu Frame Relay 768/128 DSL service.

After seeing several speed upgrades pass me by, I finally got pissed enough to go without i/net service for the 10 days it took to cancel my older account and renew it with the newer Westell 2100 modem and its ATM 1.5/384 speeds. Anyhoo, I have never installed any PPPoE software on the disk provided, simply using my old GTE account and password and set my router to Dynamic IP and off I went. Given the option, always choose to bypass any PPPoE software as it usually mucks things up. I just installed Verizon DSL last weekend. 1) Hooked up the DSL modem. Lights went blinky. 2) Power-cycled my firewall/router.

3) Told Computer #1 to reset/renew IP. Internet works.

4) Told Computer #2 to reset/renew IP. Internet works.

9) By the time I got around to the box with Fedora Core 2 Linux the next day, it had already reset itself. I only needed a username/password to use their authenticated SMTP server.

The Verizon tech gave me a username and reset my password while I was on the telephone. Of course, answering her question of 'So, do you use Outlook, or Outlook Express?' (pause) I use The Bat!' And a few other assorted oddities probably softened her up.